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When we set up the new Esperanto-USA website two years ago, we added a block to the right that has "Pictures from Esperantujo" that grabs some pictures from a group of photos at the photo-sharing website Flickr. Flickr was built by a forward-thinking group of developers that wanted to leverage the ability of a community (or communities) to recognize and organize interesting pictures, but was subsequently purchased by Yahoo.

Several months ago, Flickr changed how they treated people in different countries. Basically, they have tried to conform with the laws in countries in which they operate that don't allow people -- no matter their age -- to see certain kinds of images. These laws very from country to country. People in some of these countries have become outraged that their ability to view images is being limited by the company and they have been posting anti-censorship messages throughout the site -- including this one in the Esperantujo group.

Some people have begun migrating to a site that, to my eye, was clearly modeled on copying Flickr called Ipernity. Ipernity is located in France and perhaps doesn't need to do business in other countries and so can ignore their laws with greater impunity than a global country like Yahoo. It's been a bit sad to see the community divided. But now there's a new reason to switch.

Ipernity may be of particular interest to Esperanto-speakers because they have allowed teams of volunteers to translate the interface to the website, so you can browse the site in Esperanto. This is something Flickr has consistently refused to do. Pretty cool! I don't know if Ipernity offers services like the image badge we use in the website or not, but eventually we may want to consider switching.

by limako


An Interesting Controversy

Allan Fineberg's picture

I took a look at the comments in the Esperantujo group, and went to the Ipernity website. Now I see what limako means. A somewhat similar situation relates to Google, which the Chinese government allows to operate in China on condition that Google install a filter that makes it difficult for people in China to access information about websites that are not in favor with the Chinese authorities. This is just the sort of censorship that I thought Google was committed to be against.

October 15, 2007 by Allan Fineberg, 9 years 43 weeks ago


limako's picture

Right. I tried to be even-handed in my approach because I think its very hard to know what the right thing to do is. On the one hand, most people are willing to accept some limitations in what we can access to disallow child pornography and other kinds of heinous acts. At the same time, most of us find the kind of censorship that some kinds of countries (like China) implement to be completely unacceptable. It's hard to know how global companies, like Yahoo, ought to act in the face of such circumstances. If they're responsible to their shareholders (as most publicly held companies have to be) then they need to focus on the bottom line. It would be nice to imagine that companies could instead maximize justice and freedom -- unfortunately, for that to happen, I'm afraid we'll need to have substantial reform of the laws that govern corporations in the US at least.


October 16, 2007 by limako, 9 years 43 weeks ago

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